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	<title>Comments on: Widgets Suck</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Earnshaw</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Earnshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd also like to add that just because you're not in complete control of your revenue doesn't mean it's a bad business plan. Think of franchises, or companies that contract out other companies (this is true of many web development companies). If you rely on being contracted out by a company more established than you, you can make a lot of money from it - but what are you going to do when they find someone else who does your job better than you at a lower cost? You buy into a franchise and you're basically just using somebody elses name selling their products and on their terms.  Some of the world's biggest companies are franchise operations (mostly restaurants ;)). Of course, as you pointed out, there's always a chance that things can change abruptly, so it's a bad idea to put all of your eggs in one basket - but that could be said of any business. All big businesses make money out of smaller businesses - but that doesn't mean the smaller businesses are dumb for doing it, because they can make a lot of money too.

I actually know of a developer who's widgets pay for his constant round the world travel. He develops in his spare time and makes a steady stream of revenue from it. I seriously doubt that steady stream of income would stop abruptly, unless he was ejected from an affiliate program without warning - something which I doubt happens often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also like to add that just because you&#8217;re not in complete control of your revenue doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a bad business plan. Think of franchises, or companies that contract out other companies (this is true of many web development companies). If you rely on being contracted out by a company more established than you, you can make a lot of money from it - but what are you going to do when they find someone else who does your job better than you at a lower cost? You buy into a franchise and you&#8217;re basically just using somebody elses name selling their products and on their terms.  Some of the world&#8217;s biggest companies are franchise operations (mostly restaurants ;)). Of course, as you pointed out, there&#8217;s always a chance that things can change abruptly, so it&#8217;s a bad idea to put all of your eggs in one basket - but that could be said of any business. All big businesses make money out of smaller businesses - but that doesn&#8217;t mean the smaller businesses are dumb for doing it, because they can make a lot of money too.</p>
<p>I actually know of a developer who&#8217;s widgets pay for his constant round the world travel. He develops in his spare time and makes a steady stream of revenue from it. I seriously doubt that steady stream of income would stop abruptly, unless he was ejected from an affiliate program without warning - something which I doubt happens often.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Earnshaw</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Earnshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-580</guid>
		<description>You're probably a smart person, but I think you've just missed the whole point of widgets.

Before I start my rant, let me introduce myself as one of the main developers of eBay Sidebar Tool for Windows Sidebar.  I have to say, a lot of widgets/gadgets out there annoy me. But the ones that utilise APIs actually have a point and there's nothing sucky about them.  Widgets were originally intended to be more accessible than desktop/web applications and they really live up to their purpose when they use an API.

With regards to the business model, we could have left our "gadget" at version 1 and we'd most likely not make much less on affiliate commissions. It's the ambition to make a really useful tool that drives us to continue developing it over time. The affiliate commissions just enable us to do so. While facebook/blog/webservice widgets might not be useful to you, a female developer with more than widget-sized ambition, they *are* useful to a lot of people. I'd say our gadget is a pretty good example of this. eBay one of the biggest sites on the web. Millions of people use it religiously and for those people who have to log in, check all their items then come back and do the same thing all over again in 30 minutes. The fact that they can see all this at a glance is much more productive and from the number of people that rely on our widget I think I can safely say that they don't think Widgets suck.

That all being said, we still make mostly affiliate based widgets and there's a good reason for it: it pays the bills. Should there be a problem with that? I've built a few widgets myself that aren't commission based, a couple of personalised feed readers, a dictionary searching gadget, and some others - and I actually like making them, knowing that they are actually of some use to some people. Whenever we decide to build a widget, we at least tend to try and be original about it, or squeeze in a lot of features that other widgets don't include.

I think the main problem with widgets is, as you say, a lot of the developers don't have enough ambition to take their ideas further and integrate clever features, or some are just stupid search boxes that open a website with an affiliate link and do nothing else.  Some of our earlier widgets did that and to be honest, I'm not really proud of them so I don't mention them as much ;)

But if you have so much ambition, what are you complaining about? If you can see a bigger potential in widgets than most other developers, surely you could come up with something much more interesting than a blog post complaining about it? Maybe you just prefer to do everything the hard/long way around. I, for one, would love to know what your idea of a perfect widget would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably a smart person, but I think you&#8217;ve just missed the whole point of widgets.</p>
<p>Before I start my rant, let me introduce myself as one of the main developers of eBay Sidebar Tool for Windows Sidebar.  I have to say, a lot of widgets/gadgets out there annoy me. But the ones that utilise APIs actually have a point and there&#8217;s nothing sucky about them.  Widgets were originally intended to be more accessible than desktop/web applications and they really live up to their purpose when they use an API.</p>
<p>With regards to the business model, we could have left our &#8220;gadget&#8221; at version 1 and we&#8217;d most likely not make much less on affiliate commissions. It&#8217;s the ambition to make a really useful tool that drives us to continue developing it over time. The affiliate commissions just enable us to do so. While facebook/blog/webservice widgets might not be useful to you, a female developer with more than widget-sized ambition, they *are* useful to a lot of people. I&#8217;d say our gadget is a pretty good example of this. eBay one of the biggest sites on the web. Millions of people use it religiously and for those people who have to log in, check all their items then come back and do the same thing all over again in 30 minutes. The fact that they can see all this at a glance is much more productive and from the number of people that rely on our widget I think I can safely say that they don&#8217;t think Widgets suck.</p>
<p>That all being said, we still make mostly affiliate based widgets and there&#8217;s a good reason for it: it pays the bills. Should there be a problem with that? I&#8217;ve built a few widgets myself that aren&#8217;t commission based, a couple of personalised feed readers, a dictionary searching gadget, and some others - and I actually like making them, knowing that they are actually of some use to some people. Whenever we decide to build a widget, we at least tend to try and be original about it, or squeeze in a lot of features that other widgets don&#8217;t include.</p>
<p>I think the main problem with widgets is, as you say, a lot of the developers don&#8217;t have enough ambition to take their ideas further and integrate clever features, or some are just stupid search boxes that open a website with an affiliate link and do nothing else.  Some of our earlier widgets did that and to be honest, I&#8217;m not really proud of them so I don&#8217;t mention them as much <img src='http://leahculver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
But if you have so much ambition, what are you complaining about? If you can see a bigger potential in widgets than most other developers, surely you could come up with something much more interesting than a blog post complaining about it? Maybe you just prefer to do everything the hard/long way around. I, for one, would love to know what your idea of a perfect widget would be.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason P. DeFillippo : links for 2007-06-24</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason P. DeFillippo : links for 2007-06-24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-578</guid>
		<description>[...] Widgets Suck Amen sister! (tags: widgets mashup web2.0 widget design blog ajax development) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Widgets Suck Amen sister! (tags: widgets mashup web2.0 widget design blog ajax development) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Prime News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; wonder women naked Widgets Suck</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>Prime News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; wonder women naked Widgets Suck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-577</guid>
		<description>[...] referring to widgets and mashups, both on the web and the desktop. wonder woman drawings sketchesread more &#124; digg [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] referring to widgets and mashups, both on the web and the desktop. wonder woman drawings sketchesread more | digg [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Cartoons Fans Lounge</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>Cartoons Fans Lounge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-576</guid>
		<description>[...] referring to widgets and mashups, both on the web and the desktop. X Men legends rise of apocalypseread more &#124; digg story     RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI           Cartoons Fans Lounge [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] referring to widgets and mashups, both on the web and the desktop. X Men legends rise of apocalypseread more | digg story     RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI           Cartoons Fans Lounge [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Vista Gadgets Don't Suck (All The Time) &#124; Build A Gadget</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Vista Gadgets Don't Suck (All The Time) &#124; Build A Gadget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-575</guid>
		<description>[...] to go ahead and post up a reply to a blog post I found from Digg the other day entitled &#8220;Widgets Suck.&#8221;  The general idea of the blog post is that widgets (gadgets probably included, though this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to go ahead and post up a reply to a blog post I found from Digg the other day entitled &#8220;Widgets Suck.&#8221;  The general idea of the blog post is that widgets (gadgets probably included, though this [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: SearchRoads &#187; final fantasy manga art Widgets Suck</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>SearchRoads &#187; final fantasy manga art Widgets Suck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-574</guid>
		<description>[...] referring to widgets and mashups, both on the web and the desktop. final fantasy viii fanfictionread more &#124; digg [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] referring to widgets and mashups, both on the web and the desktop. final fantasy viii fanfictionread more | digg [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Leah Culver</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah Culver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-573</guid>
		<description>Todd - Yeah, you're right. I have been kind of negative lately. I definitely could be a little more positive on my blog. I really don't think I'm that angry of a person.

Have you ever posted a comment and later thought you were being a bit too harsh? That's what I did with the comment on Venture Hacks. I really like the blog and had been reading it for awhile and I don't think the writers are sexist.

As a female developer I sort of feel like the little things add up. It's like someone is poking you and finally you turn around and shout, "Stop it!" Then you feel bad for yelling. I'm not going to say being a female developer is easier or harder though because it's awfully tough to measure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd - Yeah, you&#8217;re right. I have been kind of negative lately. I definitely could be a little more positive on my blog. I really don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m that angry of a person.</p>
<p>Have you ever posted a comment and later thought you were being a bit too harsh? That&#8217;s what I did with the comment on Venture Hacks. I really like the blog and had been reading it for awhile and I don&#8217;t think the writers are sexist.</p>
<p>As a female developer I sort of feel like the little things add up. It&#8217;s like someone is poking you and finally you turn around and shout, &#8220;Stop it!&#8221; Then you feel bad for yelling. I&#8217;m not going to say being a female developer is easier or harder though because it&#8217;s awfully tough to measure.</p>
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		<title>By: Cartoons Plugin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; sailor moon sexy gallery Widgets Suck</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>Cartoons Plugin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; sailor moon sexy gallery Widgets Suck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-572</guid>
		<description>[...] I&#8217;m referring to widgets and mashups, both on the web and the desktop. sailor moon shemalesread more &#124; digg [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I&rsquo;m referring to widgets and mashups, both on the web and the desktop. sailor moon shemalesread more | digg [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: popup creator</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>popup creator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2007/06/19/widgets-suck/#comment-571</guid>
		<description>i think widgets are cool...and this is why they will be popular. never underestimate the herd mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think widgets are cool&#8230;and this is why they will be popular. never underestimate the herd mentality.</p>
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