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	<title>Comments on: Imaginary Dopplr Design Conversation</title>
	<link>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1099</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1099</guid>
		<description>Ted - you're probably right. I'm not good at being an asshole.

I thought about writing a review of Persai, but 1) I've never tried it and 2) it's written in Java so code FAIL QED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted - you&#8217;re probably right. I&#8217;m not good at being an asshole.</p>
<p>I thought about writing a review of Persai, but 1) I&#8217;ve never tried it and 2) it&#8217;s written in Java so code FAIL QED.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1098</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1098</guid>
		<description>Matt - Mutual relationships make much more sense for Dopplr - I don't really care if you want to store them or not. Why not just use Facebook auth and social graph?

The point is that one-way relationships for exchanging private data is ridiculous. I don't want people to be able to PUSH information to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt - Mutual relationships make much more sense for Dopplr - I don&#8217;t really care if you want to store them or not. Why not just use Facebook auth and social graph?</p>
<p>The point is that one-way relationships for exchanging private data is ridiculous. I don&#8217;t want people to be able to PUSH information to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Dziuba</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Dziuba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1097</guid>
		<description>Leah, you aren't cut out for this kind of writing.


Do you have any python code you can post instead?  How about a routine to compute the Fibonacci sequence? I hear those are popular nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leah, you aren&#8217;t cut out for this kind of writing.</p>
<p>Do you have any python code you can post instead?  How about a routine to compute the Fibonacci sequence? I hear those are popular nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1096</guid>
		<description>Hi Leah

We never had the equivalent ‘mutual friending’- we’ve always tried to be really clear that we’re not social network for cataloging friendships, but a social tool for sharing information with people you trust.

Hence the language deliberately avoiding ‘friends’ and talking about ‘sharing trips’ i.e. the informational relationship you establish with people.

While we thought in our gut that this was right when we started, it’s clear that ‘the tyranny of the idiom’ again is winning out in people’s brains, so we’re working on how we can map concepts we think are important (privacy, politeness, strong bonds and contexts for trust, avoidance of information/attention overload) to the mental maps most people have of the general territory we’re in re: social tools.

As a result we’re going to stick with the asymmetrical approach for now, but we will be improving some things to help with the management of this soon.

Hope that helps, and hope you continue to like using Dopplr.

p.s. I’m probably not the matt (biddulph) you’re refering to… but hey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Leah</p>
<p>We never had the equivalent ‘mutual friending’- we’ve always tried to be really clear that we’re not social network for cataloging friendships, but a social tool for sharing information with people you trust.</p>
<p>Hence the language deliberately avoiding ‘friends’ and talking about ‘sharing trips’ i.e. the informational relationship you establish with people.</p>
<p>While we thought in our gut that this was right when we started, it’s clear that ‘the tyranny of the idiom’ again is winning out in people’s brains, so we’re working on how we can map concepts we think are important (privacy, politeness, strong bonds and contexts for trust, avoidance of information/attention overload) to the mental maps most people have of the general territory we’re in re: social tools.</p>
<p>As a result we’re going to stick with the asymmetrical approach for now, but we will be improving some things to help with the management of this soon.</p>
<p>Hope that helps, and hope you continue to like using Dopplr.</p>
<p>p.s. I’m probably not the matt (biddulph) you’re refering to… but hey!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Mison</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Mison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 09:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1095</guid>
		<description>Let's not pretend that mutual friending (like on Twitter) is a panacea. If I grant someone the ability to follow my (private) tweets, then I'm forced to see their updates. There's nothing I can do to mute them (unlike Dopplr); if they turn out to be one of those people who posts every ten minutes, I can't get rid of them without blocking them from reading my stuff.

Anyway, the Dopplr muting them one-by-one process isn't that hard- the &lt;a href="http://www.dopplr.com/account/fellows_yousee" rel="nofollow"&gt;manage connections&lt;/a&gt; page lets you see everyone in one go.

(Funnily enough I reckon it's easier than managing notifications on - you guessed it - Twitter, which involves opening each user and then faffing with a pop-open box. I'd do something to fix it via the API, except there isn't a way of getting the current notification state.)

As to Riccardo, I have no idea what he's on; carbon calculation is opt-in and I don't see it anywhere except the carbon tab. On the other hand, I have configured Dopplr never to email me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not pretend that mutual friending (like on Twitter) is a panacea. If I grant someone the ability to follow my (private) tweets, then I&#8217;m forced to see their updates. There&#8217;s nothing I can do to mute them (unlike Dopplr); if they turn out to be one of those people who posts every ten minutes, I can&#8217;t get rid of them without blocking them from reading my stuff.</p>
<p>Anyway, the Dopplr muting them one-by-one process isn&#8217;t that hard- the <a href="http://www.dopplr.com/account/fellows_yousee" rel="nofollow">manage connections</a> page lets you see everyone in one go.</p>
<p>(Funnily enough I reckon it&#8217;s easier than managing notifications on - you guessed it - Twitter, which involves opening each user and then faffing with a pop-open box. I&#8217;d do something to fix it via the API, except there isn&#8217;t a way of getting the current notification state.)</p>
<p>As to Riccardo, I have no idea what he&#8217;s on; carbon calculation is opt-in and I don&#8217;t see it anywhere except the carbon tab. On the other hand, I have configured Dopplr never to email me.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1094</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 06:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1094</guid>
		<description>&#62; a complete waste of any Cute Girl’s time

I wonder if anyone has studied large social graphs to determine if level of cuteness is highly correlated with a large in-degree.

Actually, I wonder if it would be just the in-degree or the ratio of in-degree to out-degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; a complete waste of any Cute Girl’s time</p>
<p>I wonder if anyone has studied large social graphs to determine if level of cuteness is highly correlated with a large in-degree.</p>
<p>Actually, I wonder if it would be just the in-degree or the ratio of in-degree to out-degree.</p>
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		<title>By: Riccardo</title>
		<link>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1093</link>
		<dc:creator>Riccardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 21:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://leahculver.com/2008/05/05/dopplr-takes-a-lesson-in-fail/#comment-1093</guid>
		<description>Oh well. I love dopplr but, yeah, you got a point.
Now the good thing, I suppose, is that the whole unrequested display of carbon waste is concentrated in one email.
...and on the journal, uhm... ok I seldom use it...
...and on the location calendar! geez, that thing is on my iCal! 

Ok, you got a point. A good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well. I love dopplr but, yeah, you got a point.<br />
Now the good thing, I suppose, is that the whole unrequested display of carbon waste is concentrated in one email.<br />
&#8230;and on the journal, uhm&#8230; ok I seldom use it&#8230;<br />
&#8230;and on the location calendar! geez, that thing is on my iCal! </p>
<p>Ok, you got a point. A good one.</p>
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